Tip from my practicing
By user67157 - updated: 8 years, 3 months ago - 5 messages
Hi there! This is Song from China. I have practiced on this amazing website for a while and I want to show you my tip here.
During the practicing, if the accuracy is under 96%, slow it down, do not look at the WPM and improve the accuracy first; if the accuracy is about 97-100% for a while, say 98%, swing your fingers faster and pull the WPM up, but make sure the accuracy drops not too far. And if it does, say it drops to 95%, slow it a little bit and pull the accuracy up again.
I say this cause I lost a lot of time racing for a higher WPM without caring my accuracy, which was keeping around 93%. I did this because I thought that I would lose WPM when I start caring my accuracy, but after weeks of practicing, I found my WPM and accuracy had not proved for a long time(especially on 65-75 WPM, I frustrated a lot on this part). So I tried another way, which is basically the way I mentioned before, and I started improving again!
Hope you guys will find it useful!
Well, I am happy to reply with this:
1. No, I did not fast enough at Chinese before practicing English typing, and I just wanted to raise my speed in English. But I can definitely tell you that my Chinese typing today is much faster than ever cause I am much more familiar with the keyboard now.
2. Mostly no, and typing in Chinese is a whole different style to western languages, cause Chinese is much more intricate. For one part, we have 1 more step for typing every word. That is, after inputting the keys, we have to choose the word, cause the same bunch of keys could stand for maybe 10-20 words of candidates(if including old styles, even more), and that needs several more keystrokes depending on how popular the word is(for unpopular words we have to use = and - to check another page. One page usually have 5 candidates and we type number 1-5 for choosing the candidates on the list). So keystrokes for step 2 are not manifested on the output but that's time-consuming for the WPM.
On the other part and this is even more important and intricate: there are many different methods(I know more than 10) for input one same word(in Chinese, Hanzi) of hitting a bunch of different keystrokes(mostly including 2-4 keys, sometimes 5). For example, Quanpin input method, the most popular one(mostly because the translation is a voice based interpretation which is easier to understand), needs 5 keystrokes for the word "Hanzi", but a more advanced method Wubi(a whole different, complex way using Bihua interpretation of the Shape of Chinese words), or Shuangpin(more complex and shorter way to Pinyin), could just use 4 keystrokes and put out the same word(but all methods need more strokes for step 2 for choosing, of course).
3. There are many ways to interpret it in Chinese, and I think "打字比赛，现在来玩“ is the most straight interpretation. And if you want it for a recommendation, I believe you may want a way to say it with emotions, perhaps"打字比赛，快来玩吧."(those are the simplified style for the mainland, people in western world and Taiwan use the more complex and traditional style, which I can't give to you right now cause I don't have that input method software installed on this computer)
4. I think yes, at least for people deal with many words. But I have to say it should be really hard to build a system for Chinese typing tests. Like I said, it is a whole different and intricate style.
Let me if you need help, I enjoy sharing my culture :)
By justin0 - posted: 8 years, 4 months ago
Yeah, Sean Wrona said also something similar, to work on your accuracy until it is at least 97%. And Sean Wrona is the one of the fastest in the world, so it's good advice...
By the way, I have some questions for you because you're from China:
1. Are you fast enough typing in Chinese already and you want to be fast in english too or are you also trying to become faster in Chinese?
2. Is typing speed in Chinese comparable to typing speed in English? Because you know, each character in Chinese needs like 2 or 3 keystrokes but then also words in Chinese can be made of two characters... So how does it compare to typing in English.
3. Maybe, if it's not much of a burden for you, could you translate this small phrase: "Typing test, Play Now!" in Mandarin (or maybe also in Cantonese, or traditional Chinese,...) because, you know, I might ask people in keyhero to add Chinese (see
https://www.keyhero…)
4. If
keyhero.com had typing tests in Chinese do you think people from China would use them? would you? and why? or why not?
Thanks!
Updated 8 years, 4 months ago
By user67157 - posted: 8 years, 4 months ago
Well, I am happy to reply with this:
1. No, I did not fast enough at Chinese before practicing English typing, and I just wanted to raise my speed in English. But I can definitely tell you that my Chinese typing today is much faster than ever cause I am much more familiar with the keyboard now.
2. Mostly no, and typing in Chinese is a whole different style to western languages, cause Chinese is much more intricate. For one part, we have 1 more step for typing every word. That is, after inputting the keys, we have to choose the word, cause the same bunch of keys could stand for maybe 10-20 words of candidates(if including old styles, even more), and that needs several more keystrokes depending on how popular the word is(for unpopular words we have to use = and - to check another page. One page usually have 5 candidates and we type number 1-5 for choosing the candidates on the list). So keystrokes for step 2 are not manifested on the output but that's time-consuming for the WPM.
On the other part and this is even more important and intricate: there are many different methods(I know more than 10) for input one same word(in Chinese, Hanzi) of hitting a bunch of different keystrokes(mostly including 2-4 keys, sometimes 5). For example, Quanpin input method, the most popular one(mostly because the translation is a voice based interpretation which is easier to understand), needs 5 keystrokes for the word "Hanzi", but a more advanced method Wubi(a whole different, complex way using Bihua interpretation of the Shape of Chinese words), or Shuangpin(more complex and shorter way to Pinyin), could just use 4 keystrokes and put out the same word(but all methods need more strokes for step 2 for choosing, of course).
3. There are many ways to interpret it in Chinese, and I think "打字比赛，现在来玩“ is the most straight interpretation. And if you want it for a recommendation, I believe you may want a way to say it with emotions, perhaps"打字比赛，快来玩吧."(those are the simplified style for the mainland, people in western world and Taiwan use the more complex and traditional style, which I can't give to you right now cause I don't have that input method software installed on this computer)
4. I think yes, at least for people deal with many words. But I have to say it should be really hard to build a system for Chinese typing tests. Like I said, it is a whole different and intricate style.
Let me if you need help, I enjoy sharing my culture :)
Updated 8 years, 4 months ago
By justin0 - posted: 8 years, 4 months ago
Hi Song. Thank you very much for your reply. I was reading about input methods for Chinese, and your answer has made things clearer for me. And your translation of the phrase "Typing test, Play Now!" is priceless, because I don't have any one else to ask about it, and
translate.google.com is not always correct, so thank you very much for that. And yes I will ask you my questions about Chinese culture when I have one.
I installed Cangjie, and Wubi input methods to practice typing Hanzi characters without knowing the pronunciation of characters. I hope I will become able to do it.
Some time ago I asked marc3 to add Korean, gave him the quotes and the translated phrase in Korean he asked for, and he added it to keyhero (thanks again, marc3!). So I might try to do the same for Chinese, to see how it works, and to train typing in it. I wanted Korean added to train typing it and becoming more fluent in reading and writing it, and it has helped me a bit to do it.
Also, I tried using your advice to type faster, and, after experimenting a bit with it, I came up with a modified version that seemed to work for me these days:
"Not to focus on speed, just focus on being relaxed and enjoy typing, typing without forcing yourself, just letting your fingers flow, taking it easy, getting "in the zone"."
...And I achieved a new personal record: 70.68 WPM, so maybe this approach helped.
Updated 8 years, 4 months ago
By monkey_face28 - posted: 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi I do not type that much how do you that. "WELL HELLO THERE MY NAME IS LULU, I TYPE A LOT THE REASON I TYPE A LOT IS BECAUSE OF NITRO TYPE I AM NOT GOING TO TYPE THAT MUCH TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO ON A PLANE TO EUROPE AND EXPLORE FRANCE AND GO TO DIFFERENT PLACE AFTER I EXPLORE EUROPE I WILL GO TO AUSTRALIA.''
By userkeyboard - posted: 8 years, 3 months ago
I had a teacher tell me: " The higher your accuracy, the faster your typing speed". So far, I've rung this to be true.
