@Venerated, I kinda get your point, but your generalization about birth is about as dumb as the quote’s generalization. Yeah definitely there are people out there who are suffering for no reason at all. And yeah there are some people enjoying life, who may not even deserve to, but to go so far to say birthing is a sin, and anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a selfish cuck, with a small penis, is just idiotic. The real answer is, if you can’t handle a child, and don’t have the economic status or the tolerance, or the virtues to properly raise a child don’t make one. But if you do by all means go ahead.